{"id":546,"date":"2001-07-24T15:57:47","date_gmt":"2001-07-24T14:57:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/?page_id=546"},"modified":"2015-06-04T22:57:55","modified_gmt":"2015-06-04T21:57:55","slug":"sig-p210","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/?page_id=546","title":{"rendered":"SIG P210"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/leftside.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>[This review originally appeared on the <a href=\"\/dgca\">Deactivated Guns Collector&#8217;s Association<\/a> website in July 2001 &#8211; Ed.]<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The SIG P210, is, to quote noted gun collector Ian Hogg, &#8220;the best pistol in the world&#8221;.\u00a0 Of course those of you who have forked out thousands for a heavily customised target pistol may disagree, but there is little doubt that the P210 is the highest quality pistol to ever leave a factory with the intention of equipping soldiers or police officers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The story of the P210 starts before World War 2, when a Swiss engineer, Charles Petter submitted a design on behalf of the company Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Alsacienne de Construction M\u00e9caniques (SACM) to the French Army who were looking for a new service pistol, and this was adopted as the Mle 1935A.\u00a0 For some bizarre reason the French chose the calibre 7.65mm Long, more commonly known as 7.65mm MAS, rather than the 9mm Parabellum.\u00a0 Ballistically 7.65mm MAS is similar to 7.65mm Parabellum, though with a lower velocity.\u00a0 Petter based his pistol to a great extent on previous Browning designs such as the Colt Government Model.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The Swiss were obviously concerned at the prospect of a German invasion, and the demand for pistols for use by the Army was high.\u00a0 The Swiss could not manufacture the complex 7.65mm Luger pistol (known in Switzerland as the Model 06\/29) fast enough, and started looking for a simpler pistol chambered for the more effective 9mm Parabellum (although in the end the P210 was made in 7.65mm Parabellum also).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Fortunately for the Swiss, in 1937 the company of SIG (Schweizerische Industrie-Gesellschaft) had acquired the rights to the Petter designs from SACM and started work on improving the design for use by the Swiss Army.\u00a0 Their starting point was apparently Petter&#8217;s final design for SACM, a 9mm version of the M1935 pistol.\u00a0 By 1944 various prototypes were ready for testing, the main ones being the SIG-Petter 44\/8, 44\/15 and 44\/16, the number after the slash indicating the magazine capacity.\u00a0 In appearance the 44\/8 looks almost identical to the M1935A except for the safety being moved from the slide to the frame.\u00a0 Internally the pistol was also very similar, although SIG dispensed with the swinging links that Petter had copied from the Colt Government Model, and used their own method of locking, with a kidney-shaped cutout in the lug under the chamber:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/barrel2.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Through this hole the slide stop is inserted from the frame.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Unfortunately for SIG, the war ended before any decision had been made on adopting the new pistol.\u00a0 However, in 1947 the company received a request from the Swedish Sport Shooters Association who wanted a new pistol for target shooting.\u00a0 They laid down specific requirements, such as how accurate the pistol must be capable of shooting and that it must have an eight-shot magazine.\u00a0 This request plus interest from the Danish Army in the prototype SIG-Petter 44\/8 led to SIG tooling up for production of the pistol that was initially called the SIG-Petter 47\/8.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It had several important differences from the earlier prototype designed to enhance accuracy, by far the most important was the unusual but innovative reversal of the frame\/slide rails, so that the slide rails run inside the frame rather than outside.\u00a0 SIG found this prevented the slide from loosening over time and provided far more consistent grouping:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/slideback.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">You can see in this picture the unusual method of mounting the slide on the frame.\u00a0 The rails run inside the frame:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/framerails.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Other changes that were not so welcome were a magazine disconnect safety (i.e. when the magazine is removed from the gun, the gun cannot fire) and the magazine release being relocated from the usual thumb position to the heel of the base of the grip:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/gripbase.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This slowed down reloads tremendously and has been cursed by target shooters.\u00a0 The magazine disconnect safety has the double effect of also making the quality of the trigger pull worse, though over the years SIG has perfected the art of a trigger job on these pistols even with the magazine disconnect in place.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">After the initial sales to the Danish Army the Swiss Government finally took the plunge and adopted the pistol as the &#8220;9mm Pistole Modell 1949&#8221; or &#8220;P49&#8221; as it is sometimes called.\u00a0 It may seem odd issuing a pistol that was redesigned for target shooters to an Army, but the nature of the Swiss Army is that each officer is given his pistol and keeps it even after he has retired.\u00a0 Soldiers serve in the Swiss Army for two weeks out of the year and one of the prime aspects of this militia system is an obligatory marksmanship programme.\u00a0 This is a natural environment for target shooting competitions to emerge and consequently the more target shooting features a gun has the better, at least as far as the Swiss are concerned.\u00a0 Even to this day the P210 is very widely used in target shooting sports in Switzerland.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In 1949 the nomenclature used by SIG for this pistol changed to &#8220;P210&#8221;, and the first variation of the pistol is known as the &#8220;P210-1&#8221;.\u00a0 The design differs slightly from the SP 47\/8, the main noticeable difference being the deletion of the loaded chamber indicator which it was found occasionally caused feed jams.\u00a0 P210s can instantly be recognised from the earlier guns as the serial number on the gun starts with &#8220;P&#8221;.\u00a0 On Swiss Army pistols the serial number starts with &#8220;A&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The &#8220;-1&#8221; variation has fixed sights and usually wood grips.\u00a0 It was widely used by Swiss police units as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">A year later in 1950 the P210-2 was introduced, the only real difference is that this gun has plastic grips and is usually parkerized, whereas the P210-1 has wood grips and is usually blued.\u00a0 Later versions of the P49 Swiss Army pistol followed the pattern of the P210-2.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-3 is rarely referred to in most articles and is rarely seen, however it is merely the P210-1 or -2 fitted with a loaded chamber indicator.\u00a0 These were primarily sold to police organisations.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-4 was the variation sold to the German Border Police in the early 1950s.\u00a0 This variation is particularly sought after by collectors, and differs from the other models in that not only does it have a loaded chamber indicator, but lacks the lanyard loop in the grip and has a serial number beginning with &#8220;D&#8221;.\u00a0 Much rarer and very valuable are the &#8220;Cuban&#8221; P210-4s, which are in the same serial number range but lack the prefix &#8220;D&#8221; before the serial number and have the lanyard loop.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-5 is a target shooting version of the P210, usually it has a longer 150mm barrel that protrudes from the slide with the front sight mounted on it, and often it has the &#8220;heavy frame&#8221;, this is a thicker and stronger frame, that theoretically makes the pistol more stable when shooting due to its weight.\u00a0 Also it has adjustable sights.\u00a0 Over the years since its introduction in the early 1960s there have been a huge number of variations of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-6 is the version pictured here, the basic target shooting version with a standard 120mm barrel that is flush with the end of the slide:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/muzzle2.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It too is available with the heavy frame but this one has a standard frame:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/frametop.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The target shooting models also have a trigger overtravel stop and a &#8220;micro&#8221; adjustable rearsight:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/rear.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In this picture you can also see the hammer cocked, one of the main complaints levelled against the P210 is that it suffers from &#8220;hammerbite&#8221;, i.e. when the gun is fired and the hammer is automatically cocked when the slide recoils, the spur of the hammer catches the top of your hand.\u00a0 Whether you suffer from it depends on the shape of your hand!\u00a0 One of the interesting features of the P210 is that the trigger mechanism can be removed from the gun as a unit by undoing a screw in the beavertail of the grip.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-6 was introduced in the early 1950s, which indicates that the numbering system was thought up after the P210-5 hit the market.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210-7 is a .22 rimfire version of the P210, although it is usually encountered as an add-on slide and barrel for the P210-5 or -6.\u00a0 Obviously intended for lower cost training, although it is accurate enough for target shooting in its own right.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The final version is the P210-8, which has only recently been introduced.\u00a0 It appears to have been intended for IPSC target shooting, although in reality an eight-shot 9mm pistol is not really competitive.\u00a0 It differs substantially from the earlier models in that it has a thumb magazine release, no magazine disconnect safety, and a wider safety lever and is built on a &#8220;heavy&#8221; frame.\u00a0 These guns sell for the equivalent of US$2,000 in Europe, but for some unknown reason the list price in\u00a0 the US is $4,300!\u00a0 Someone is making a serious profit somewhere!\u00a0 The gun comes with a test target showing a 3cm group at 50m.\u00a0 This is more accurate than most military rifles.\u00a0 Prior to the introduction of the P210-8 conversions of P210s by gunsmiths so that they have similar features was common.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The P210 ceased to be purchased by the Swiss Army in 1975 with the introduction of the SIG-Sauer P220.\u00a0 The P210 was dropped simply because it was too expensive.\u00a0 It did continue in service for some time afterwards until older officers had retired.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The future looked bleak for the P210 as production stopped in 1985, the target shooting market being too small to sustain it, and developments in target shooting having overtaken it.\u00a0 However, this classic design with its outstanding accuracy (ISSF rules be damned!) refused to die, and with the development of CNC machinery production resumed in the early 1990s.\u00a0 The gun pictured here was manufactured in 1994.\u00a0 As one more detail of the quality of the gun, note the grooves on the front strap:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/frontstrap.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Note the quality of the machining and the attention to detail at the top of the grip, under the trigger guard.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">One of the more fascinating sidelines of the P210 are the commemorative and decorated models.\u00a0 These are essentially the firearm equivalent of a Faberge egg.\u00a0 Even compared to other noted decorated guns such as those made by Beretta and so on, they stand out and are the ne plus ultra of the firearm collecting world:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/helvetic.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"392\" height=\"256\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The gun pictured above is the Helvetic commemorative.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve actually been fortunate enough to look at one of these up close, and it is an astonishing piece of art.\u00a0 Note the cantonal crests along the side of the frame.\u00a0 Another of the P210 commemoratives is the 700th Anniversary of Swiss Confederation model, unfortunately I don&#8217;t have a particularly good picture but you get the general idea:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/Sig210700jahreDetail.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"333\" height=\"105\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The bluing job is simply incredible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Many collectors get bitten by the P210 bug, and this can be fatal to your bank account!\u00a0 Various books have been written about them, nearly all are in German.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Unfortunately in this country we are constrained by the law, and there aren&#8217;t too many people willing to cough up the cost of one of these guns when it has to be deactivated.\u00a0 I forked over most of the compensation money I received after the handgun ban for the P210-6 pictured here.\u00a0 You can get Danish Army surplus guns for a lot less but you will be looking at around \u00a31,000 for even the cheapest P210.\u00a0 Less than that and you will be getting a tatty example.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If you want one of the commemorative models, expect to be paying well into the thousands, however, on the bright side you can own it in working order as a firearm of &#8220;particular aesthetic quality&#8221;, provided you keep it at a designated site under the provisions of Section 7(3) of the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and obviously you need a firearm certificate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Start saving your pennies&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.cybershooters.org\/dgca\/images\/P210\/rightside.JPG\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"384\" border=\"0\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[This review originally appeared on 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