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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:35 pm    Post subject: Australian shooting Reply with quote

Good to see bans work so well (sarcasm).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-48522342
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The weapon used on Tuesday was a prohibited 12-gauge pump-action shotgun. Northern Territory Police Commissioner Reece Kershaw said it "may have been stolen as far back as 1997".


He has no way of knowing that because there was no registration back then. That is complete speculation.

Anyway, it wasn't a mass shooting, because of some feeble rejigging of the definition of "mass shooting". I notice they already upped the necessary body count to 10 from 5 after the shooting in Western Australia. This one barely scratches the surface because only four people were shot fatally.

This article is even more silly.

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"I can't imagine [Australia's] laws becoming any more restrictive," Martinovic told NPR. "I think as a nation we're pretty happy with where our gun laws are."


Yes, stupidly over-restrictive while not actually achieving the stated objective.

At least in Australia so many people keep denying reality that you can simply turn around and say: "well, you said it wasn't a mass shooting, so why do you want the laws to be tightened?"
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here it comes folks, wait for it, yes, Philip Alpers is going to say something completely stupid.

Or more accurately, two things that are really stupid.

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But this is not to say that gun laws failed, says Associate Professor Philip Alpers


A guy with an ankle monitor using a prohibited firearm to commit a mass shooting... hmm... that's pretty much the textbook example of gun laws failing, Phil. How much more graphic do you want it to be?

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Professor Alpers says this suggests he was either using a semi-automatic shotgun, which would be illegal under the national firearms agreement signed by the states and territories after the Port Arthur massacre, or a high-capacity magazine, which would also be illegal.


He clearly hasn't got a clue how guns work and this is the supposed anti-gun expert! He shot people at separate locations so the capacity is academic and it appears that he doesn't know that pump-action shotguns are also banned. The impression I get from that statement is that alternative #2 was a double-barrel shotgun with a large capacity magazine. Oh dear, the standard argument of "high-capacity semi-automatic" isn't going to work this time!

At least he thinks that four fatalities constitute a mass shooting, which is why he fiddled the numbers in his 2016 study whereas the other guy in Australia who does this "research" fiddled his numbers by saying it should be five fatal victims.
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