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cj10



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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: From evey cloud there's asilver lining Reply with quote

Having finally admitted defeat in getting a US export license for this

http://www.lakesideguns.com/title1/upper.html

I get Gunmart and open page 157 and see this

http://www.germansportguns.de/index.php?id=10320&kat_id=&p_id=1729

Gumart states a version complying with UK mimimum dimensions will be with us by Christmas. (Please, please, please).

To increase the German variant's 7 inch barrel to one that meets UK requirements perhaps they could include an integeral moderator?

Ceri
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: From evey cloud there's asilver lining Reply with quote

cj10 wrote:
Having finally admitted defeat in getting a US export license for this

http://www.lakesideguns.com/title1/upper.html

I get Gunmart and open page 157 and see this

http://www.germansportguns.de/index.php?id=10320&kat_id=&p_id=1729

Gumart states a version complying with UK mimimum dimensions will be with us by Christmas. (Please, please, please).

To increase the German variant's 7 inch barrel to one that meets UK requirements perhaps they could include an integeral moderator?

Ceri

Not sure about the moderator. One for the courts I suspect. I think a 12 barrelled version would sell well anyway. The video showed a 3D model with a moderator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent a message via thier web site and here is the reply

Dear sirs,

Will be avaulable with a long barrel version.
Please contact info@centra-uk.co.uk they will be the importer for the UK.

best regards,

michael swoboda

Will see what they have to say regarding pricing and availability.

Regards

Nigel
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it works... shades of Armi-Jaeger. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cybershooters wrote:
If it works... shades of Armi-Jaeger. Laughing


You cynic Steve.

I owned a Parker-Hale SAR 15, which worked up to a point. I had two issues with the magazines, specifically:

1. Their capacity being 10 rounds. Something Guy Savage was seeking to address but never did; and

2. Every 20/30 rounds they'd cause a misfeed.

Happily sold it for more than I paid Mr Savage, and bought a Volquartsen Superlite with snake barrel, etc. I use a variety of mags with this, including the 50 round 'clockwork' version, with no problems what-so-ever.

Hopefully this MP5 clone will have been engineered from scratch, and built specifically for 22lr. (Please)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want high-capacity, there are a couple of places in the US making .22 uppers that use the Ciener bolt and mags, those hold 25 rounds. Or you can just get a Ciener conversion kit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update from the importers:

Dear Sir,

GSG will send us a pre-production model very soon. We will present this to Home Office forensics for approval before we commit to buying. GSG say they will be in full production by the end of this year.

We estimate this gun will have a suggested retail price of below 350 inc vat for the basic version.

We will do a trade notice of availability and pricing once we secure Home Office approval.

Yours faithfully,

John Churchley

CENTRA UK

Looking good, roll on December Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

remmy1100 wrote:

Looking good, roll on December Very Happy

Nigel


Nigel - spot on. It really will be xmas this year.

Just got to figure out how to convince Suffolk Constabulary I need two 22lr semi-autos.

One zeroed for indoor range and the other for ETR ranges????

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spare gun in case the first one becomes boring, er... broken.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cybershooters wrote:
Spare gun in case the first one becomes boring, er... broken.



Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj10 wrote:
remmy1100 wrote:

Looking good, roll on December Very Happy

Nigel


Nigel - spot on. It really will be xmas this year.

Just got to figure out how to convince Suffolk Constabulary I need two 22lr semi-autos.

One zeroed for indoor range and the other for ETR ranges????

Ceri


One's tricked up for 1500, the other's more a timed and precision custom job.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Importer has just sent a demo model to Target Sports for evaluation.

Retail stock due to arrive mid January. My variation form being submitted tomorrow. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think a .22 AR-15 is the way to go for anything serious, more work has been done on making them, uh, work. Quite a few companies turning them out now. Plus you can also get these now.

There are just so many accessories available for the AR-15.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj10 wrote:
Importer has just sent a demo model to Target Sports for evaluation.



Better watch they dont "lose" it!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm going to try getting hold of some of these Black Dog magazines and I'll see how they run. My general experience is that metal mags work better than plastic ones (thank you Ram-Line) but I'll find out.
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