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Gunman kills several in Cumbria
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Mick F
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Gunman kills several in Cumbria Reply with quote

Gunman kills several in Cumbria
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A number of people have been killed and others injured after a gunman opened fire in several areas of west Cumbria.

Police are searching for the suspect, named as Derrick Bird, after shots were fired in Whitehaven, Seascale and Egremont.

Detectives said he drove into the central Lakes in a Citroen Picasso before abandoning it in the Boot area.

People who live nearby are being urged to stay indoors for their own protection.

A force spokesman said officers are working to establish the identities of those killed and wounded.

Police were initially called after shots were fired in Duke Street, Whitehaven, at 1035 BST.

A force spokesman said: "We can confirm that a number of people have been injured after shots were fired in the Whitehaven, Seascale and Egremont areas this morning.

"There are a number of fatalities and police are working to identify the individuals and inform relatives. Ambulance crews are in attendance across the area."

Anyone who sees 52-year-old Mr Bird, from Rowrah near Frizington, should contact Cumbria Police.

Eyewitness Peter Watson said he had seen a body lying in the street in Whitehaven.

"When I first got here it must have just happened. There was a man lying on the ground with police stood over him and a jacket on him," he said.

The Sellafield nuclear reprocessing plant in west Cumbria has also closed its gates as a safety precaution and afternoon shift workers are being told to stay away until the "risk is reduced".

BBC Look North Chief Reporter Chris Stewart said a body was still visibly lying in the street in the town.

He said helicopters had been brought in from other forces to help in the hunt for Derrick Bird.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's dead now, apparently.

A doctor on the radio said he used a shotgun.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He's dead now, apparently.
A doctor on the radio said he used a shotgun.
J.

There's also eyewitness reports of 'huge sniper rifles' and 'looking down the sights.' I tend to believe what the GP is saying though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick F wrote:
There's also eyewitness reports of 'huge sniper rifles' and 'looking down the sights.'
Maybe they were talking about the police ?

Mick F wrote:
I tend to believe what the GP is saying though.
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You wouldn't if he posted on here. You disagree with everybodyas SOP
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carrot Cruncher wrote:
Mick F wrote:
There's also eyewitness reports of 'huge sniper rifles' and 'looking down the sights.'
Maybe they were talking about the police ?

Nope
Mick F wrote:
I tend to believe what the GP is saying though.
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Carrot Cruncher wrote:
You wouldn't if he posted on here. You disagree with everybodyas SOP

I agree with you, but then that rather defeats your point doesn't it? I also think that the SOP (standard operating procedures for those none mil) of disagreeing with everyone falls far more easily on your shoulders than mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see how the new government reacts to this. Will there be kneejerk legislation? That's the usual response isn't it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need to wait for the details to come out, apparently he had two guns, both described as shotguns or "long barrelled". Doesn't really mean a fat lot at this point. The GP describes the wounds as being extensive, so that does sound like a shotgun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a number of reports of shotgun wounds, also people saying they heard two shots at incidents so that does suggest a double to me.

There was though an eye witness describing specifically that the "James Bond sniper rifle" had a massive sight on top.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Various descriptions now of the gun used being very long and pointing out the car window, so I'm guessing it was a semi-auto or pump-action shotgun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7798513/Cumbria-shootings-gunman-Derrick-Bird-kills-12-then-shoots-himself.html

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Armed with two weapons - a .22 rifle and a shotgun - Bird drove down the coast from Whitehaven where the first attacks took place,........



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not good, I can here the 'ban-it' brigade loading up their salvo's for the next attempted wave of gun bans.

What a Fcking wanker! I hope you burn in hell for this.
It looked like the legacy of Ryan and Hamilton was behind gun-owners and now this mess! Sad
RIP folks to you who died. You didn't deserve to go out in this way.

I can only hope he was using illegally aquired weapons and he wasn't a legit gun owner.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems he got the guns from his dad when he died:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7142477.ece

So it's possible he wasn't a legal FAC holder or even a SGC owner.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Libertarian_UK wrote:
RIP folks to you who died. ..

What is a comment like that worth ? You think they're surfing Cybershooters in the afterlife ?
Dozy pillock.

Libertarian_UK wrote:
I can only hope he was using illegally aquired weapons and he wasn't a legit gun owner.


I would bet my pension that he was. The whole history of spree shooting shows that the perps are nearly always legal gun owners.

Incidentally, it's spelt "acquired."

Push off to Airgun BBS or Guntrader. Your sort of codswallop goes down well there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Libertarian_UK wrote:
It seems he got the guns from his dad when he died:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article7142477.ece

So it's possible he wasn't a legal FAC holder or even a SGC owner.


Why ? When a certificate holder dies, the police keep tabs on what happens to his/her guns.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick F wrote:
I also think that the SOP (standard operating procedures for those none mil) of disagreeing with everyone falls far more easily on your shoulders than mine.
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Can't imagine why you should think that. Anyway, you should be able to tell us whether Bird was a certificate holder or not.
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